Congratulations. You're not only the first person to be banned from the forums, but also the first to be permanently banned. Any new accounts you make will meet with the same fate. If you continue to try to circumvent the ban, I guarantee you that you will never be allowed to post here again.

 

A bit hard isnt it? I mean Altariste (although i dont know him) just made a fun post aka "Jiriki got banned"

Its MAAAD.

This isn't only about the forum post. I told him something like a week ago that his team is late and cannot join the season (actually I shouldn't, because its not my job) because that would push the finals into christmas. Well of course he couldn't take a no for an answer, and be civil about it. Instead he spammed me on steamfriends, gather chat, and in a NS game so I had to mute him. At that point I was going to ban him but I hadn't finished the ban system.

Few days later on I asked our own players to join vent and play a pcw instead of gather, which apparently caused some kind of Logan's mental breakdown. Again he spammed me on friends, gather, in-game, you name it. When I finally ban him in the game he just continues the testosterone powered whine on shoutbox, forums, IRC etc. Then he gets banned from here too. Finally he starts making duplicate accounts and spamming everywhere.

As a nail in his coffin afterwards also joins or game in progress, tries to eject the commander etc. disrupts the game.

And this in addition to all the complaints made by you, frG etc. for his gather behaviour.

Well as danny and x-man apparently are not doing their job here, I will do it.

Its not a "big deal", its an issue. Just look at S11 which didn't end until I came back from army and asked Voodo wtf is happening, final was never played between Flatline and GangBang and then there was all this afterwards drama. The finals were around christmas originally iirc.

Or look at ENSL Season 6, final was never played because of summer.

I don't know, but if this is going to be the last season, I don't want fail finals. I'll rather have one less team than risk fail finals.

I know its possible to add teams later on, and I've done it myself (which has caused some drama because "surprising games" for teams), but currently it is just not feasible.

I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

– Bill Cosby

just like i thought ; ), i think the problem is not with the league but with their admins, 1st. you jiriki, not trusting your own ppl you choose to manage the league, 2nd and yes i think you're just lazy bums who can't even manage league to even go smoothly when problems appear. if you're not trusting your own admins and you see that their job is fruitless then it's all up to you to change all of that.

a little bit of effort doesnt hurt, does it?

Is it still possible to add "U GO" in the season after the week 1 matches have been played?

Are you seriously thinking there will be a 0% fold rate?

Especially because it's the last season (is it?) i would try and do anything in my power to include as much teams as possible. To me it looks like the admins (Danny, x-man) are just too lazy to rework the whole system that was made up for this season (yes, it is a good system, no doubt) but right now THIS system prevents us from being added to the season. Now i know Danny is probably joking about stealing dugi from our team, but if this was one of the reasons for not even trying to include us, then please remove yourself from the admin team.

what the fuck you polish twat. have you ever even played a full season without being in 2 dead clans first?  He doesn't choose the admins, the admins put themselves forwards and he's actually replying to your trivial bullshit.

Ok I've finished arguing with aA, now to argue with jiriki.. lol

The site is better now, the site sucked in the past, that makes teams fold, the point in having a league is not to get winners, there's no prize, it's for organised play and encouraging activity; having it last a little longer is a good thing for many reasons too AND teams die when you cut them from the league because they have no reason to play (feel left out)

Either way.. whatever, lets just play and the dead clans players can just try to join other teams unless no1 likes them.. poor maaad :'(

fortune wrote:

what the fuck you polish twat. have you ever even played a full season without being in 2 dead clans first?  He doesn't choose the admins, the admins put themselves forwards and he's actually replying to your trivial bullshit.

Ok I've finished arguing with aA, now to argue with jiriki.. lol

The site is better now, the site sucked in the past, that makes teams fold, the point in having a league is not to get winners, there's no prize, it's for organised play and encouraging activity; having it last a little longer is a good thing for many reasons too AND teams die when you cut them from the league because they have no reason to play (feel left out)

Either way.. whatever, lets just play and the dead clans players can just try to join other teams unless no1 likes them.. poor maaad :'(

I'm pretty sure someone has to approve the admins.

If you are referring to the Squad-6 fold last season, also due to decisions made by an ENSL admin, do i need to go on?

About your other statement, you hit the nail on the head, although it's allways nice to see the Finals actually played.

fortune wrote:

what the fuck you polish twat. have you ever even played a full season without being in 2 dead clans first?  He doesn't choose the admins, the admins put themselves forwards and he's actually replying to your trivial bullshit.

as a smart person you should check information first and then post, there are many circustames that make a clan die before season ends and i dont remeber i as a person was ever be one of those ;P.

well the misstrust in admin staff is just your imagination

Before the season we've made some decision about being more strict with rules and keep up to our decisions and see how it works (test it before NS2).  The fact that you asked me to add you to the season, 4 days after deadline,  which would require changes in system (not only weeks - probably making 5teams div1 8 teams div2) with a team including six members, which was made one day ago is quite ridicullus. I have no guarantee that your team would survive more then 3 weeks and do not fuck up a season to rest of div1 teams. (i know that in such case any team could).  Already expained to you that only possibility to join by you is to take place of other team. Do not expect from us making any of such decision (as adding teams after deadline) in future (NS2 seasons).

about MaaaD, he disapointed me with his behavour, i put some trust in him and made a proposition to become ENSL interviewer. Seems i was wrong idea.

about Danny trying to steal doogie, yeah I supose it was a joke...

about myself being lazy... doubt if you know how lazy ENSL admin look like (check Voodo ;])

x-man wrote:
Do not expect from us making any of such decision (as adding teams after deadline) in future (NS2 seasons).

I don't expect anything anymore, we are playing a game here, without prize money (yes Fana, awaiting your stupid joke) i really dont understand why there has to be such strict rules about these kind of things, THIS IS A GAME. People tend to forget that in the end we are here for pleasure, nothing else.

p.s. Jiriki, try to fix those 2 lines breaks please, its annoying ^^

aA wrote:

just like i thought ; ), i think the problem is not with the league but with their admins, 1st. you jiriki, not trusting your own ppl you choose to manage the league, 2nd and yes i think you're just lazy bums who can't even manage league to even go smoothly when problems appear. if you're not trusting your own admins and you see that their job is fruitless then it's all up to you to change all of that.

a little bit of effort doesnt hurt, does it?

Seriously, you are just exaggerating a lot now.

1) I do trust our staff, Im just saying Danny and x-man hadn't replied to you about this earlier and I wanted to flick them about it. I don't want to respond to about league stuff because that's not my task.

2) "lazy bums who can't even manage league". Excuse me? Just because we don't want to risk fail finals doesn't mean we're lazy. I mean come on, you are not MAAD-level, have you ever considered there might be another reason than "laziness" why we are not putting you in? I can tell you putting you in is trivial on effort level compared what it took to make this whole system.

3) You are late. If we follow rules like we've promised, we shouldn't include you in. Period. I dont' even remember what happened in last season, but I'm sure the problem wouldn't be there if we had followed rules exactly, or otherwise it would have not been our fault at all. Maybe Danny and x-man want to keep their system but that is certainly not the only issue here.

This is exactly the issue, first people blame us for not following rules, and then they demand to bend them for "the greater good" and suddenly when things fuck up its again all our fault.

Take a no for an answer please. And don't spam every topic/article about this.

x-man wrote:

well the misstrust in admin staff is just your imagination

 

ust look at S11 which didn't end until I came back from army and asked Voodo wtf is happening, final was never played between Flatline and GangBang and then there was all this afterwards drama.

 

 

Before the season we've made some decision about being more strict with rules and keep up to our decisions and see how it works (test it before NS2).  The fact that you asked me to add you to the season, 4 days after deadline,  which would require changes in system (not only weeks - probably making 5teams div1 8 teams div2) with a team including six members, which was made one day ago is quite ridicullus.

lazy bum ; P

 

 

 

I have no guarantee that your team would survive more then 3 weeks and do not fuck up a season to rest of div1 teams.(i know that in such case any team could).

all 12 teams might die as well after 3 weeks, you can't guarantee that either ; P

and you said it yourself, so well what can i say... ; D

  Already expained to you that only possibility to join by you is to take place of other team. Do not expect from us making any of such decision (as adding teams after deadline) in future (NS2 seasons).

 

well if clanbase and esl can why can't you? well compare those organisations to this small league, please ; )

 

 

about MaaaD, he disapointed me with his behavour, i put some trust in him and made a proposition to become ENSL interviewer. Seems i was wrong idea.

 

 

what can i say about maad, i don't know him ; P

 

about Danny trying to steal doogie, yeah I supose it was a joke...

 

 

 

we'll about that in near future, what happens next is being decided right here and now.

OK FUNNY :D

This post was about the spanish guy whose name i didnt know... now I know that it is MAAAD and acutally I think what ever he did he needs a break not a perm ban! You should not treat the gather games as "HYPER IMPORTANT"!  Even though i dont like MAAAD that much (youve probably noticed that) I think the perm ban is 2 hard!

U GO

Well Ever thought that finals failed because the teams went "inactive" ? And why they got inactive? I think the date is semi important, in my opinion the whole community went inactive and thats why top teams get inactive too! Another reason is the Admin stuff (considering to S12) it wasn't the best back then...There also was big drama betweeen the germans and peach! So dont blame the date!

The DATE is UNIMPORTANT as long as the teams stay active by an attractive league!  

maads spam was just nonstop conspiricy theories and nazi insults, the guys not stable and though I have no comment about his actual personality I don't like playing ns with him.

A Perm ban is almost always too harsh, but a seriously long and large ban is atleast reasonable in this situation ;/

2 weeks! I almost killed myself waiting 1 week until i could play gathers again!

MAAAD (Logan) was initially banned for two weeks for calling the admins cocksuckers and other similar insults, as per the forum rules. I deleted the offending thread. He then proceeded to repost the same thread, while I was putting in the details for the ban. That prompted me to extend the ban to two months.

He then logged in with a second account (Alatriste) and spammed the forums with the thread he was originally banned for posting. He also started spamming the shoutbox repeatedly with threats and insults directed at me and jiriki. Finally he abused the ban appeals forum with a "fun post". That prompted me to ban him permanently.

Following this he harassed me and jiriki on IRC with further threats and insults. He also registered several new accounts on ENSL and continued spamming the forums and shoutbox. Jiriki then proceeded to IP ban him, which has stopped him from creating more accounts for the moment.

Let me make myself very clear on this. I will not accept this kind of bullshit or anything even close to it. There will be no appeals and no leniency. So long as I'm still in charge of moderation, MAAAD will stay banned.

As you may have also noticed, I've moved this thread to the Feedback forum. I'm getting pretty sick of people not reading the rules and posting feedback threads in GD. The next time this happens I will promptly delete the thread and ban the poster for three days.

aA wrote:

hiding behind others is not rly how mature ppl act, you're also an admin and you have a key role in this league.

Its not hiding behind others. I dont moderate these forums either, because its not my task.  Comprende? Danny and x-man can take you still if they want.

aA wrote:

then prove me ; )

There is nothing to prove. Its basic logical reasoning.

aA wrote:

I would understand your strict behaviour if that league would have 200 teams instead of 12. but from my experience i have never seen such stuborn and and problematic admins(in terms of making these problem really big ones)

Yes this is exactly the argument we hear everytime. I heard this from Peach in last season, and see what happened.

aA wrote:

you haven't give me a one really good reason why your deicision is a no.

How about the finals are going to end up in christmas and might have total failure in last possible season. How many times do I have to say this, hm? It is not hard to understand the implications of this, last season ending up in christmas (s11) had fail finals. Only if you care only for your team but not for the league as whole, then you keep on ignoring this argument.

aA wrote:

If you start acting like you know better than anyone else than any disscusion will be for you like another spam on forum, so please stop using excusses like "it's a spam and i wont take it serious" and just simply take that challenge and effort to anwsear all these questions, that's a role of an admin as well, so please don't start being an ignorant.

I never said I know better than anyone else. I took it seriously. I did consider you and went through all the possible division systems.

This issue, unlike what you are saying, has two sides. On other hand, we can break rules, get one team in, and risk finals or we can follow rules and play safe. Its a decision. Apparently you need repeat this until you get your way. Do you think everyone should act that like that?

edit: sorry, I was going to quote your message but clicked edit button and replaced it.

jiriki wrote:

 

aA wrote:

hiding behind others is not rly how mature ppl act, you're also an admin and you have a key role in this league.

Its not hiding behind others. I dont moderate these forums either, because its not my task.  Comprende? Danny and x-man can take you still if they want.

 

well i dont see x-man nor danny talking at all and you're the guy that represents admins atm.

 

aA wrote:

then prove me ; )

There is nothing to prove. If you dont understand basic logical reasoning, I guess I cannot help you.

 

well you said it's trivial ,stand up for your words, you're the guy who has to prove it, quite logic isn't it?

aA wrote:

I would understand your strict behaviour if that league would have 200 teams instead of 12. but from my experience i have never seen such stuborn and and problematic admins(in terms of making these problem really big ones)

Yes this is exactly the argument we hear everytime. I heard this from Peach in last season, and see what happened.

 

 

i dont care what happened in last season, it was last season, gl with that living in the past. we are here and now.

 

aA wrote:

you haven't give me a one really good reason why your deicision is a no.

How about the finals are going to end up in christmas and might have total failure in last possible season. How many times do I have to say this, hm? It is not hard to understand the implications of this, last season ending up in christmas (s11) had fail finals. Only if you care only for your team but not for the league as whole, then you keep on ignoring this argument.

 

it's all based on your fears "possible" it's quite possible that tomorrow this side might be hacked as well and ensl will die and then the forum will not be up for 2-3 years which will cause of ns being completly dead as well ; D

 

 

aA wrote:

If you start acting like you know better than anyone else than any disscusion will be for you like another spam on forum, so please stop using excusses like "it's a spam and i wont take it serious" and just simply take that challenge and effort to anwsear all these questions, that's a role of an admin as well, so please don't start being an ignorant.

I never said I know better than anyone else. I took it seriously.

This issue, unlike what you are saying, has two sides. On other hand, we can break rules, get one team in, and risk finals or we can follow rules and play safe. Its a decision. Apparently you need to argue about it and call us lazy bums until you get your way. Do you think everyone should just keep calling us stubborn when we don't bend rules for their way?

 

well if you want that stability that much why won't you start buying a coffin, it's quite stable as well, no1 is bothering you anymore you dont have to do anything etc. it's peacefull and quiet there.

 

 

aA wins

Why don't you make it a three person coffin!

Actually,

To clarify.

When dugii left nL, Danny asked me if we should take him (without knowing he was in frG's new team) and the decision made by the team was a big fucking "NO". So yea, the Danny stealing dugii things quite a joke.

The rest of the stuff though... yea... DRAMA ON.

NOLOVEFORZIGGYBIGFUCKYOUKAYTHANKS

aA wrote:

jiriki wrote:

 

aA wrote:

hiding behind others is not rly how mature ppl act, you're also an admin and you have a key role in this league.

Its not hiding behind others. I dont moderate these forums either, because its not my task.  Comprende? Danny and x-man can take you still if they want.

 

well i dont see x-man nor danny talking at all and you're the guy that represents admins atm.

 

 

Your response

GibbZ wrote:

Actually,

To clarify.

When dugii left nL, Danny asked me if we should take him (without knowing he was in frG's new team) and the decision made by the team was a big fucking "NO". So yea, the Danny stealing dugii things quite a joke.

The rest of the stuff though... yea... DRAMA ON.

You suck at everything gibbz, in fact, I could get in and you'd be cut.

I already exposed my idea of maybe playing 2 matches a week, at least ours. We could sacrifice ourselves in order to play the season.

Next time join in time/make suggestions before the season starts.

elynn wrote:

Next time join in time/make suggestions before the season starts.

Thank you for this great advice.