Miscaellaenous but important stuff
Howdy,
First of all, there was some debate about server rule (which has been in the rulebook for about 1/2 - 1 years). Basically the current rule enforces to play on non-EU servers in case the eg. europeans have same ping on US server as americans in EU server. While I personally think proper teams don't need natural ping advantage (this is the same as saying "play on EU servers") to win the other team, I know most people in EU are toocowa. reluctant to play anywhere elsewhere (sometime playing in Germany was a big deal), we're changing the rule so both maps have to be played on European servers when requested.
However on the other side, in the next season, we could be arranging a Worlwide Division for non-EU teams seperately from the other divisions. Also european teams could participate in this season at the same time as they participate in regular divisions. The default time could be adjusted to something different from regular one to fit more time zones. This is however just a vision, we need to see what's the situation after this season.
Second thing. New plugin is coming out this week to fix some badass bugs that have been reported to me but also with more features:
Features / changes:
- Rate violation will give 30s time to fix the rate and try to automatically fix it
- /delwp to remove waypoints
- !admin to call a ref in case of problems
- Commander assistation
-> Information when a building or upgrade is complete
-> Popup for building selling (to prevent accidental obs sell)
-> Commander can enable/disable these at own will
-> ... Suggest?
- Menus for refs (you lazy nibbz!)
- Global bans
- In-game automatical match logging to website
- Score, player frags/deaths
- Ref remarks
- Randomjoin
Alright, I scrapped the hivechooser (partly for the reason there's always quite much to code) but feel free to suggest anything else that comes to the mind.
Lastly, please contact the correct people for issues.
- Website, Plugin, Server -> jiriki
- Match/League issues: Ref -> Div Admin -> Voodo
I (jiriki) am taking myself off the ENSL decision making loop. I take care of the plugin, website and server. Don't contact me for anything else. Thanks!
Thanks,
ENSL Staff
First of all, there was some debate about server rule (which has been in the rulebook for about 1/2 - 1 years). Basically the current rule enforces to play on non-EU servers in case the eg. europeans have same ping on US server as americans in EU server. While I personally think proper teams don't need natural ping advantage (this is the same as saying "play on EU servers") to win the other team, I know most people in EU are too
However on the other side, in the next season, we could be arranging a Worlwide Division for non-EU teams seperately from the other divisions. Also european teams could participate in this season at the same time as they participate in regular divisions. The default time could be adjusted to something different from regular one to fit more time zones. This is however just a vision, we need to see what's the situation after this season.
Second thing. New plugin is coming out this week to fix some badass bugs that have been reported to me but also with more features:
Features / changes:
- Rate violation will give 30s time to fix the rate and try to automatically fix it
- /delwp to remove waypoints
- !admin to call a ref in case of problems
- Commander assistation
-> Information when a building or upgrade is complete
-> Popup for building selling (to prevent accidental obs sell)
-> Commander can enable/disable these at own will
-> ... Suggest?
- Menus for refs (you lazy nibbz!)
- Global bans
- In-game automatical match logging to website
- Score, player frags/deaths
- Ref remarks
- Randomjoin
Alright, I scrapped the hivechooser (partly for the reason there's always quite much to code) but feel free to suggest anything else that comes to the mind.
Lastly, please contact the correct people for issues.
- Website, Plugin, Server -> jiriki
- Match/League issues: Ref -> Div Admin -> Voodo
I (jiriki) am taking myself off the ENSL decision making loop. I take care of the plugin, website and server. Don't contact me for anything else. Thanks!
Thanks,
ENSL Staff
Comments
Voodo | Two Team Squad
24 February 2009, 21:39
Vision | Quaxy
24 February 2009, 21:49
GibbZ | 9L
24 February 2009, 22:00
vartija | KelaKorvausKöyhille
24 February 2009, 22:54
GibbZ | 9L
25 February 2009, 01:41
M
This game dosent need anymore features i dont need any info or popups I dont want a plugin to interfeer with my gaming experiance.
25 February 2009, 01:54
jiriki | old people
My philosophy is that I'm trying to keep all (except the rate checking) plugin features as silent as possible. So no extra messages unless they are important (like rate warnings).
I also agree that the servers, with bloated plugins which interfere with the gameplay or just bug you with extra popups, are horrible. That's why most of the plugin features are administration-related.
Besides, the commander messages were going to be fully optional and turned off by default. Their function is just to save the commander trouble of polling buildings. Its not a big deal as it wont command for you or anything.
25 February 2009, 02:15
qin
25 February 2009, 11:53
qin
25 February 2009, 12:00
Bacillus
25 February 2009, 12:01
BerglunD | Snowrollers
25 February 2009, 14:54
Nde | Saunamen
Div2 maybe, but not Div1.
25 February 2009, 15:43
jiriki | old people
25 February 2009, 15:47
Arj | Ant
25 February 2009, 17:35
M
It makes the impression that certain coms lost games to this, and requested this "feature".
25 February 2009, 19:21
wodKa | Flatline-Ns
lol can i have xmenu turned on pls?
or hows about an ensl aimbot?
so i cant accidently miss the aliens?
25 February 2009, 19:25
qin
25 February 2009, 19:40
BerglunD | Snowrollers
25 February 2009, 20:18
frG | TROLLS
25 February 2009, 20:24
GibbZ | 9L
25 February 2009, 20:48
Bacillus
The other features are quite irrelevant, but I guess it's ok as long as you can turn them off. Right now there aren't always enough of commanders to cover all the teams in need, so any help for the new commanders is appreciated.
25 February 2009, 21:11
BerglunD | Snowrollers
25 February 2009, 21:21
M
I want the plugin to take over if i laag and move my fade into safety.
25 February 2009, 22:08
Bacillus
I just don't get why the luck of comm accidentally recycling something should be there. As if you wouldn't want to remove all the lags from your game.
25 February 2009, 23:03
Fana | Archaea
I want the plugin to take over if i tryy to complain and write my comments for me.
26 February 2009, 02:18
Voodo | Two Team Squad
26 February 2009, 02:39
Tweadle
26 February 2009, 04:40
Android | Snowrollers
26 February 2009, 06:16
frG | TROLLS
No, cause /stuck doesnt make the game easier for you, it's just a simple unstuck function needed when you hit Mr.Ben's g-spot.
26 February 2009, 07:19
Bacillus
If we are going to extremes this, pistol script and 3jump for lerks are way more skill reducing than that prevention and I thought we got over those a few years ago. We might as well force everyone to go with the default configs if you consider avoiding accidental obs recycles a skill. :>
It doesn't med, scout, create tactics, res manage or anything, it just let's me focus on something else than broken parts of the comm UI.
Oh well, I think I said everything I want, feel free to disagree/troll ahead if you have to. :>
26 February 2009, 08:35
rapsu | Quaxy
26 February 2009, 08:47
BerglunD | Snowrollers
Lets just make a plugin so mistakes cant be made and every match is won by the team with best plugin.. oh wait.. you wouldnt even get to play..
26 February 2009, 10:25
BerglunD | Snowrollers
26 February 2009, 11:29
Bacillus
Wanna argue this over irc at some point? I'd really like to hear how an accidental recycle that happens to every comm maybe 1/250 matches (except tweadle it seems) is the essential skill factor of comming. Seriously, how does this differ from avoiding stuckpoints as a skill? Both require some knowledge and awarness, but still happen to almost every player sometimes and cause dramatically big effects compared to the mistake made.
I actually feel slightly smoothening the flaw could allow people to peak a little higher apm and do the actual comm skill stuff more effectively on some cases.
I still can't help feeling you're both kidding me. See you at irc at some point. I'd have already quit discussing this unless I'd really like to see that plugin feature implemented.
26 February 2009, 12:56
Arj | Ant
26 February 2009, 14:06
Android | Snowrollers
From when i played at least selling obs and stuff like that, was a part of what made ns fun and unpredictable actually.... Its just so silly imo to try to make every game look more and more the same...
You will eventually just lose the fun in the game..
26 February 2009, 14:33
BerglunD | Snowrollers
26 February 2009, 15:18
Bacillus
99,5% of the rounds go the same as before with or without the plugin. Actually I'd say the 0,5% might have more interesting stuff going on because of it, since an even round doesn't get broken by a crucial recycle or something.
As for the newbie friendliness I don't know. I've always done it very rarely, no matter the shape or skill level I'm in. I'd say it's more of an unlucky combination than any specific skill factor.
I'd be against all this if we had a dozen plugins making up for the mistakes, but I feel this particular one is good.
26 February 2009, 16:28
Voodo | Two Team Squad
Still, im against it.
26 February 2009, 17:12
sublime
26 February 2009, 17:46
Bacillus
26 February 2009, 18:04
GibbZ | 9L
However I'm not going to conjure some shit argument like the rest of the people here. I just like my NS vanilla.
26 February 2009, 18:26
BerglunD | Snowrollers
I said i dont want it, why are you then against me? o.O
26 February 2009, 18:29
Voodo | Two Team Squad
26 February 2009, 18:47
qin
26 February 2009, 19:41
Voodo | Two Team Squad
26 February 2009, 19:49
GibbZ | 9L
That's all ^^
26 February 2009, 22:34
BerglunD | Snowrollers
26 February 2009, 22:39
Tweadle
I agree on the whole that we don't need to make things nub friendly blah de blah and I realise I am biased but this is not something that makes comm's better by medding for you. It's just the comm's equivalent of /stuck.
It's also retarded winning games because of stuff like that. It doesn't make the game any more fun or funny, that's also bullshit. It makes it shit and unfulfilling. It's like winning a game because the fade lagged out "OH HAHA, LOOK WE WON A GAME BECAUSE OF SOMETHING STUPID, COOL, FUNNY, THIS IS FUN" so I reject that weak argument even more so.
27 February 2009, 01:05
huhuh | Danny Est Gros
Jiriki did you read my irc pm last day?
27 February 2009, 03:51
jiriki | old people
Its most likely possible but since the game's pretty much balanced, I don't see a reason why we should start changing it.
27 February 2009, 04:58
Tane | HasBeens & NeverWas
27 February 2009, 10:22
Bacillus
27 February 2009, 10:48
jiriki | old people
27 February 2009, 13:21
Bungle
27 February 2009, 22:43
sherpa | cisequaltothree
NS in its original form is a great blend of constant (attack damage (excluding shotgun)) and random (hives, rfk). Call me an old timer but I liked it that way.
28 February 2009, 02:02
Bacillus
The obs sell seems to be quite controversial. Haven't seen any full-time commanders turning against it yet though.
28 February 2009, 09:54
naduli | Exertus
28 February 2009, 11:20
Saebelzahnelefant | Team Four
28 February 2009, 12:21
Bacillus
28 February 2009, 12:43
Tweadle
NS has always had a shortage of commanders so I would suggest that, of all the mini changes to the game, this one should be the least resisted.
28 February 2009, 12:49
Arj | Ant
2 March 2009, 16:21
Tweadle
3 March 2009, 04:20
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