I Recorded the Balance meeting and sorted it in parts with what is when said, so if your just about to bring up a post on the forums or on the next Balance meeting rewatch the part your interested in so you can argument much better.

(a full video will follow but its like 3 hours and 20 minutes long)




(Videotimes=Avisync cutting times)
(Streamtime is that clock running on the Screen)





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW2YWyEvxBY
HMG_part1
Videotimes: 6:36.80 - 17:24.900
Streamtime: 6:28 - 17:01



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E4Bg5fRuz8
EXOS_part1
Videotimes: 17:25.900 - 25:44
Streamtime: 17:01 - 25:11



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsZC9Ytjp1Y
EXOS_part_2+FLAMER_part_1
Videotimes: 25:44.520 - 59:38.680
Streamtime: 25:11 - 57:58



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH9lZ3LX6lc
HealingCAP_part1+CARAPACE_part1
Videotimes: 59:38:680 - 1:12:45.880
Streamtime: 57:58 - 1:10:38



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sozy_4qqoZQ
Catpacks_decreased_Reloadspeed_part1
Videotimes: 1:12:44.240 - 1:23:34.600
Streamtime: 1:10:37 - 1:21:05



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVaHkLIeavA
CompMod_How_many_Changes_Make_Sense
Videotimes: 1:23:34.600 - 1:30:38.000
Streamtime: 1:21:05 - 1:27:57



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_lP40Mqj8Q
Lifeformcost_PresReduction_Income+maybe_Scale_Skulks_and_Leap_part1
Videotimes: 1:30.38.00 - 1:39:02.360
Streamtime: 1:27:57 - 1:36:12



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjEPs9trsHA
maybe another Patch:
Is_Comeback_potencial_wished+Cysts_asap
Videotimes: 1:39:02.360 - 1:44:12.000
Streamtime: 1:36:12 - 1:41:16



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzJmY2ecYW4
Lerk_Glide
Videotimes: 1:44:12.00 - 1:44:27:120
Streamtime: 1:41:16 - 1:45.26



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql9H7JSN9XA
Comm_Pres_gain_off_CC_and_Hive
Videotimes: 1:44:27:120 - 2:05:43.920
Streamtime: 1:45.26 - 2:02:15



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdtPq6NzUZM
maybe another Patch:
Aliencomm+Drifter_purpose
Videotimes: 2:05:43.920 - 2:11:36.880
Streamtime: 2:02:15 - 2:07:59



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWCo9wZfC7A
Balance_HiveTraits+Skulk_Leap_part2+Hivetraitidea_redoCraghive+regen=lifesteal
Videotimes: 2:11:36.880 - 02:19:04.000
Streamtime: 2:07:59 - 2:15:18



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwXc6NG9-eY
maybe another Patch:
Grenade_spawnwithem_or_make_them_recapable
Videotimes: 02:19:04.000 - 02:22:24.000
Streamtime: 2:15:18 - 2:18:35



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyJKpvWTqzE
Flamers_part2+HMG_wepon_composition+WelderAxeDamage_on_Buildings
Videotimes: 02:22:23.440 - 02:39:59.000
Streamtime: 2:18:34 - 2:35:50



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opmIEVV_o3Y
Biomass_scaleing_change+Mines_scale_not_with_weponupgrades
Videotimes: 2:39:5900 - 2:49:09.00
Streamtime: 2:35:50 - 2:44:50



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW8NPXxtW-Q
GorgeBunnyHop+HMG_StructueDamage+ChangesDuringTheSeason+SchedulingChanges
Videotimes: 2:49:18.840 - 2:53:58.320
Streamtime: 2:45:00 - 2:49:33



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrkMh9mFD9c
Shade_HaluzinationChange_they_should_poof
Videotimes: 2:53:58.320 - 03:03:46.000
Streamtime: 2:49:33 - 2:59:11



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3g22f3szQQ
Leap_ect+Catpack_Duration_part2+Nanoshield
Videotimes: 03:06:02.840 - 03:16:49.600
Streamtime: 3:01:25 - 3:12:00



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f7bwwLzqpQ
Thanks_Good_Meeting+Parasite+AusNS2_and_CompModV3
Videotimes: 03:16:49.600 - 03:29:39.680
Streamtime: 3:12:00 - 3:24:24



(If somebody can convert these links to working youtube links in this forum feel free to do so.)


In case you dont like my Cutting watch the full 3 hour and 20 minute long thing here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8QcI0B9E2s&list=PLsYRffHRjErRdhPz8VMAiK1fHFRuz_5Wi




Edit: Recuted the flamer2 part (it was overlapping other parts)

EDIT2: the Complete Video added in case some people dont like the cutting points (but thers rly not much important inbetween)



BTW Feedback is appricated

Mega working hard as usual. But wouldn't it be better if you who maybe already listened through all this actually wrote down the important bits of the conversation and posted it as you would a changelog? As pleasing as the voice of Ms Rantology and as entertaining as the image of a hung over Golden with his good-morning-rattle sitting in his underwear with a bed-head is, this is three and a half hours mostly consisting of an array of banter, opinions and personal experiences that nobody really needs to hear. The only interesting bit is really the potential conclusions that the devs actually reach after having discussed each item. You could probably shorten this down to ten minutes of true value.

For example, with all the talk about the HMG you could write:

HMG - The general consensus is that it needs modification due to underuse. Some confusion exists about its purpose, though confirmed to be intended for late-game. Will remain in-game for now until decisions of modifications are made, which seemingly could mean a price-reduction.

Robby says

.....

1) thanks that you appricate it

2) in the case of writing it short to 10 minutes i would have to judge even more who said the important stuff and who didnt and i actualy like viaritiy and diffrent opionions so thats why i didnt cut too much or wrote a summery thats in the eye of the betrayer what is good and bad.

3) theres allready the changelog what is basicly the currect summery of what is fine to change till season5 start.
All other things are bigger changes, theory and ideas that still can come up so thats basicly why i keept that format of parts instead of summerys.


but feel free to do one and post it would be appricated thanks.

lol at mega cutting out all the points of the discussion but holy fucking batshit of robby going even extra mile of asking him to do more hahaha

Alright, so the point was rather to save and share the actual mindset of the devs and not just the results of the discussion. I guess that's one of the things that makes you unique, Mega.

Are you saying that there's already a changelog with the changes from this TS3 meeting applied to it? Do you have a link to that?

Iots says

lol at mega cutting out all the points of the discussion but holy fucking batshit of robby going even extra mile of asking him to do more hahaha

There is no such thing as working too hard when it's for the good of others, as i've told you before. I do not see how this can be a lost concept on someone who's about to turn 30. How are you even able to function in a team with such a selfish outlook? Mega's intent is one of providing a service to those curious of the minds of the developers. Just because this doesn't interest you (or me) it doesn't mean that it isn't valuable to others. That's what makes it worth working for.

Maybe you should just turn up next time robby!

Cr4zy_ says

Maybe you should just turn up next time robby!

I did. But the stream that was supposed to record this meeting wasn't up, and i didn't have privileges to enter the channel.

Thanks for doing this mega!

Apologies for the lack of explanation on the changes. I had written them in comments on the doc the day after but I guess google docs just bug out after a while and no longer show comments. here is the explanations that were supposed to be showing. While not a tl;dr of the meeting you will at least get to see why each change was done. If you want more specific explanations, look up the appropriate youtube clip Mega kindly details in his post.

And the channel being locked was an accident... it won't happen in this sunday's meeting (we couldnt find a TS admin to remove the PW).

Robby says

There is no such thing as working too hard when it's for the good of others, as i've told you before. I do not see how this can be a lost concept on someone who's about to turn 30. How are you even able to function in a team with such a selfish outlook? Mega's intent is one of providing a service to those curious of the minds of the developers. Just because this doesn't interest you (or me) it doesn't mean that it isn't valuable to others. That's what makes it worth working for.

If you didn't understand my comment, i was utterly amused that you were such an asshole to actually ask Mega to do even MORE work, for something that could've been as simple as pasting 1 video, and noting time stamps in the comments. At least that's what i would have done in his place, if at all. He did way too much work for this, but i sure as hell wasn't coming here to belittle him or mock him.

And yeah, maybe you should stop trying to analyze others who really have no clue about, cause you're not that good in it.

Iots says

Robby says

There is no such thing as working too hard when it's for the good of others, as i've told you before. I do not see how this can be a lost concept on someone who's about to turn 30. How are you even able to function in a team with such a selfish outlook? Mega's intent is one of providing a service to those curious of the minds of the developers. Just because this doesn't interest you (or me) it doesn't mean that it isn't valuable to others. That's what makes it worth working for.

If you didn't understand my comment, i was utterly amused that you were such an asshole to actually ask Mega to do even MORE work, for something that could've been as simple as pasting 1 video, and noting time stamps in the comments. At least that's what i would have done in his place, if at all. He did way too much work for this, but i sure as hell wasn't coming here to belittle him or mock him.

And yeah, maybe you should stop trying to analyze others who really have no clue about, cause you're not that good in it.

bann incoming, brace yourself!

Suggestion: Rather than youtube., use soundcloud. Form a "set" (playlist) containing individual tracks with representing titles. Label this as a podcast. Here's an example on my soundcloud page although it does require pro membership ~ https://soundcloud.com/kyle-abent/sets/kae-40-antenna-collaborator

Iots says

Robby says

There is no such thing as working too hard when it's for the good of others, as i've told you before. I do not see how this can be a lost concept on someone who's about to turn 30. How are you even able to function in a team with such a selfish outlook? Mega's intent is one of providing a service to those curious of the minds of the developers. Just because this doesn't interest you (or me) it doesn't mean that it isn't valuable to others. That's what makes it worth working for.

If you didn't understand my comment, i was utterly amused that you were such an asshole to actually ask Mega to do even MORE work, for something that could've been as simple as pasting 1 video, and noting time stamps in the comments. At least that's what i would have done in his place, if at all. He did way too much work for this, but i sure as hell wasn't coming here to belittle him or mock him.

And yeah, maybe you should stop trying to analyze others who really have no clue about, cause you're not that good in it.

I understood fine. You didn't. So in my proactive endeavors to aid those less fortunate than myself, let me in yet another topic explain things for you.

I know Mega and his work ethic well as i once was part of his round little table at Wonga and later Whipped. He's the kind of person who goes the extra mile, even when it's not necessary to do so. Apart from the enchanting sparks flying between you and me, this topic also sparked the senses of mine that felt that Mega was at it again. I've seen him do this many times and i've tried to help him as best i could. Even though i admire him for working so hard for others, i think he deserves to sometimes get reminded of how his efforts may not come to as much use as he'd like due to his often verbose methods. When i told him that it probably would have been better to simply write down the decided conclusions from the meeting i wasn't telling him to actually do this work, but simply giving him an idea of what he could have done instead, so he could do this next time to save himself a lot of work and make the end-product more useful to others.

As Mega after this explained that the goal of this project actually was to provide the debate itself, and not just the bullet points from the meeting, i owe him an apology for participating as this unfortunately also meant that lots the invincible would join the fray.

Rather than simply filling a topic with worthless banter à la lots, insulting Mega for working hard ("lol at mega cutting out all the points of the discussion...") and insinuating that i want to him to work even harder ("...but holy fucking batshit of robby going even extra mile of asking him to do more hahaha"), i was trying to give Mega valuable feedback in how he could have been more efficient with this work, which is what he was ASKING FOR. Can't you at least TRY to leave something useful in your posts instead of plainly stalking me and bothering innocent bystanders with your dislike for all people with philandering intentions? We are trying to to get things done around here and your juvenile ambushes are holding back productivity. This forum isn't your emotions journal. Get a blog or move over to PMs.